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County Ordinance Requires Secondhand Dealers Report to Sheriff

The new requirements affect antique shops, swap shops, coin dealers, flea market vendors and gold and precious metals dealers.

A new Pasco County ordinance requires secondhand dealers to electronically log every transaction they make as part of business.

Antique shops, swap shops, coin dealers, flea market vendors and gold and precious metals dealers are among the businesses the county identifies as secondhand dealers.

Dealer logs are to be filed with the Pasco County Sheriff’s Office.  Under the ordinance, dealers also are required to hold secondhand goods that they receive for a 30-day period before they can resell them.

The ordinance is a companion to the Secondary Metals Recyclers Ordinance also adopted by the county commission Feb. 7.

Sheriff’s office property crimes detective Eric Pfenninger said that the secondhand dealer ordinance helps hasten identification of suspects and otherwise assist deputies.

“It gives the state a better prosecutable case, as well,” he said.

The electronic logs are reported using an online system called FINDER, which the sheriff’s office had used prior to track pawn shop transactions. FINDER is used in several Florida counties.

The new ordinance "requires more people to report to that database,” Pfenninger said.

One Patch reader recently commented that the secondhand dealer ordinance will put undue strain on small-business owners.

“…How can a small business tie up their money for thirty days before reselling coins, gold or silver bars with the way the market constantly changing going up and down. There is no valid reason for the sheriff to request this. Coins are not distinct like jewelry, there are millions made of each one and you cannot really tell one from the other,” .

“I have more compassion for the victims of crime than I do for the minority of business owners who won’t comply with the new ordinance,” Sheriff Chris Nocco said when asked for a response.

Nocco said most business owners were already conducting business using the guidelines that the ordinance mandates, "and to them I say thank you.”

The ordinance “just levels the playing field,” Nocco said.

The sheriff's office is inviting secondhand dealers affected by the changes to attend an informational meeting on the ordinance.

The sheriff's office has scheduled three sessions; each is expected to last about two hours, a media release stated.  

"Each session will be the same and attendance is voluntary. The sessions will include a discussion of the requirements found in the new ordinance, a demonstration of the designated reporting system called FINDER, and a chance to ask questions to detectives about the new procedures," the release stated.

Contact Lindy Nowicki at 727-844-7797 or LNowicki@pascosheriff.org to attend.

The ordinance can be downloaded as a PDF file from the Pasco County commissioners website. It also is attached to this article.

Session schedule:

  •  Wednesday, March 14, 1 p.m.: CPI Conference Room, Counsel Square, 7601 Little Road, New Port Richey
  • Thursday, March 15, 1 p.m.: Pasco Sheriff's Office, District II, 36409 State Road 52, Dade City
  • Wednesday, March 21, 1 p.m.: Pasco Sheriff's Office Detention Center, 20101 Central Blvd., Land O' Lakes
Rene Van Hout March 12, 2012 at 01:08 pm
I am so grateful that this ordinance is in place. It gives theft victims hope of recovering their precious valuables, and will deter some of the crimes from happening! Thank You Pasco County Commissioners and the Pasco County Sheriff's Office!!!
Bill Jenkins March 12, 2012 at 02:51 pm
Marshall's comments are in my opinion, ridiculous. Waiting periods have been used in many jurisdictions nation wide for many, many years. As a former buyer and seller of used firearms in a county with a similar law there was absolutely no hardship involved. Gold and silver may also have characteristics that can be identified by their rightful owner.
DT March 12, 2012 at 07:43 pm
Gold has the potential to drop by a few hundred dollars an ounce in thirty days. That's a lot more risk for a buyer to take. This ordinance could very well drive legitimate businesses out of the county as the buyers will have to hedge even more, therefore legitimate sellers will go elsewhere in order to get fair market value for their items. In turn, it could hurt the local economy.
A lot of people own gold and silver bullion coins and bars and millions of them look exactly the same. Some bars, however, do have serial numbers. For those thinking this will help recover stolen items, do you realize that quite often stolen items are sold either on the street, somewhere outside of the area in which they are stolen-sometimes shipped out of state, or sold through online classified websites? I really don't see how ordinances like these are that useful these days especially for items that don't have distinctive characteristics.
Gary Webster March 17, 2012 at 02:06 am
This is by far the stupidest law ever. How can a one person business such as most flea market businesses are be expected to do this. I buy thousands of items a year from .25 cents to $10.00 each. It would take me hours every to finger print, take photos, and check everyones drivers license and then upload this information.
This law will put another 1,000 people out of work in Pasco county including me. Most of us just make a living as it is. Now we are expected to do the sherrifs job too. There will be no flea markets or thrift stores with used items in Pasco county within a year thanks to this new law. Many people need these places to bay reduced price items to live. Thanks Pasco county. As usual kick the little guy.
Federal Reporter March 30, 2012 at 05:16 pm
IT takes crime prevention not put dealers out of business Ms. Rene Van Hout. For the record the COUNTY Commisioners have voted to repeal this ordinance because not only does it violate STATE STATUTE the sheriff tried to have this passed without proper procedures or proper notification to the public. Now if you want the government to operate in secret I suggest you go to Russia because it WILL NEVER happen here in USA. Also the public is to be held responsible if they don't secure their valuables not the dealers.
Federal Reporter March 30, 2012 at 05:20 pm
Mr. jenkins I have been a dealer for over twenty years and your comment is ridiculous and you must be working on the sheriff's campaign for reelction because what you say is a real JOKE. Gold and silver MAY have characteristics that can be identified by the righful owner.............get a life how far from the truth that is and you know it Mr. jenkins.....stop sucking up to the sheriff. The state says that NO county can pass any law that exceeds the state statute...thank God for that or we would be living among you commies without regulation.
Federal Reporter March 30, 2012 at 05:27 pm
It amazes me how many people have NO clue what they are talking about regarding issues but have alot to say. The county tried to exceed the state statute on this issue and they got caught. The sheriff needs to work with the community not put them out of buisness or try to act like they have the authority to exceed state statute and pass ordinances in secret. The public has an obligation to secure their valuables and if they don't then crying later should be ignored. We live in a society that has criminals and that is in every country so if you don't protect your valuables "responsibly" why cry later when you are a victim. The sheriff is not a magician nor are the honest working dealers operating in Pasco. We feel for victims but we also have a right not to be the victim because of criminals. We are legitimate honest businesses and the comments make the dealers look like they are the bad guys wake and smell the roses people this is 2012.
Federal Reporter March 30, 2012 at 05:29 pm
DT thank you for your very educated comments It is very obvious you know what you are talking about and not worried about reelection for Nocco by smoke screening the real issue here.
s.stein December 24, 2012 at 02:28 am
I buy and sell used furniture and home decor, I am not a thrift store and do not buy from the public. I purchase my inventory from auctions and sometimes other dealers. Does this ordinance also pertain to my business. I just found out about this from a friend who has a business at the fle market. I am a little confused.
Federal Reporter December 24, 2012 at 04:54 pm
It has been repealed...

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